Gristle Crüe Community Call — Sensors, Antenna Analysis, and some BIG ideas!

Local EE & exper­i­men­tal sci­en­tist Dirk Beer came on the Crüe call to talk about some of the sen­sor work he’s done and a very cool lit­tle anten­na analy­sis tool he built. Jame­son Buffmire filled in the sec­ond half with some real­ly inter­est­ing ideas on where Heli­um might go as well as the chal­lenges & oppor­tu­ni­ties in the space. Rad call!

To be very clear, the posi­tions expressed by Jame­son in this are his own and not made or endorsed by CalChip, Nova, Heli­um Foun­da­tion, Orange, etc. 

I still haven’t worked out a rea­son­able way to get chap­ters in here, so for now I’m past­ing in the chat text. Rock ‘n roll!

10:00:19 From RM : Hey guys! ?
10:03:39 From Sean Med­i­na : here’s to ham radio!
10:10:12 From 619OTA : is that also before and after the 100km lim­it ?
10:10:27 From RM : Is there any way to run this simul­ta­ne­ous­ly (two anten­nas at the same time) and so take out some uncon­trolled vari­ables (dif­fer­ences on the net­work)?
10:11:34 From RM : or nor­mal­ize it to a giv­en variable/value that enables com­par­isons?
10:13:52 From RM : Hotspot Anten­na Anlyz­er 2.0
10:14:22 From RM : add sta­tis­ti­cal analy­sis for com­par­ing peri­od 1 with peri­od 2 not just a descrip­tive results.
10:15:54 From Sean Med­i­na : do you believe there was much bounc­ing of sig­nals? hnten­na is good for receiv­ing diverse polar­ized sig­nals… which result from bounces.
10:17:48 From RM : I am not able to see it … AWESOME!
10:19:48 From Nik Hawks : For RM and the rest of you who can’t see that:
10:19:50 From Nik Hawks : Bea­cons wit­nessed before: 221 after: 180
Suf­fi­cient bea­cons wit­nessed before and after the switch for a valid test? Yes
T‑test on a mul­ti­vari­ate regres­sion with bea­con­er and rssi as fac­tors, at p= 0.95 . Actu­al p = 0.000000 for rssi
Hotspot ID: 112qFQccafv1XdMDB1pkAxHMX4LSGuEe6LZQrTBt9EBSHK7FJxuC
Date of Switch: 2022-05-30 05:28:00 UTC
10:20:11 From RM : thanks @Nik
10:20:19 From Dirk Beer : https://dbtech.shinyapps.io/HotspotPerformanceAnalyzer/
10:21:02 From Sean Med­i­na : thank you!
10:21:05 From 619OTA : inter­est­ing. I have my HNTen­na on my off grid. does­n’t do all the good. think­ing of mov­ing it to my house.
10:23:03 From Nik Hawks : @dirkbeer on Dis­cord
10:24:31 From Nik Hawks : https://www.dragino.com/products/lorawan-nb-iot-door-sensor-water-leak/item/181-lds02.html
10:32:14 From 619OTA : ?
10:32:22 From RM : Awe­some. con­grats!
10:32:25 From Lee (Team Gris­tle King) : Thanks Dirk!
10:32:26 From Tay­lor Thoenes : Thanks Dirk!!
10:32:29 From Lee (Team Gris­tle King) : Real­ly cool
10:32:45 From Sean Med­i­na : !muchas gra­cias!
10:45:36 From 619OTA : good to know… point my small cell towards the shop­ping cen­ter and not towards the mil­i­tary
10:47:25 From Jay M. : Test­ing my CPI knowl­edge… Would­n’t joint Pollen/Helium setups lead to both hav­ing their spec­trum lim­it­ed but not elim­i­nat­ed, even if cov­er­ing the same area?
10:51:48 From Kevin Wei­de­mann : yeah, maybe we need a whole call on the eco­nom­ic rela­tion­ship between MOBILE and HNT
10:52:03 From BigSkyTech : But, with that Pollen mod­el would­n’t the SEC con­sid­er their token a secu­ri­ty?
10:52:07 From Lee (Team Gris­tle King) : @kevin I’ll write that down
10:52:17 From Michael Corum : yep
10:52:20 From RM : Agree @Kevin Wei­de­mann
10:52:27 From Tay­lor Thoenes : Agreed. I would real­ly like more info on MOBILE
10:52:30 From BigSkyTech : ?
10:52:39 From Sean Med­i­na : Jame­son — wow, hear­ing this infor­ma­tion from a com­plete­ly dif­fer­ent back­ground, is quite valu­able.
10:53:05 From Sean Med­i­na : vio­lates which test?
10:53:25 From Jay M. : Howey Test
10:53:45 From Sean Med­i­na : thx
10:54:21 From Tay­lor Thoenes : https://www.findlaw.com/consumer/securities-law/what-is-the-howey-test.html
10:54:52 From Michael Corum : Indeed
10:54:54 From BigSkyTech : Yea
10:54:56 From RM : nop
10:54:56 From Kevin Wei­de­mann : yes
10:54:57 From CreekHound : Not me
10:55:11 From Sean Med­i­na : not me
10:55:19 From Russ : please define dy net­work
10:55:26 From Kevin Wei­de­mann : they are diverg­ing on pur­pose.
10:55:46 From Michael Corum : very inter­est­ing
10:55:54 From Kevin Wei­de­mann : HNT is not on Coin­base for the secu­ri­ty rea­son
10:57:09 From BigSkyTech : I thought it was because of the struc­ture of the blockchain and the chal­lenges with inte­gra­tion? HNT on coin­base I mean.
10:58:21 From Kevin Wei­de­mann : wow. wish sup­port would have told me that
10:58:52 From 619OTA : lol. I did­n’t read the instruc­tions. I just asked BFGNeil
10:59:20 From Kevin Wei­de­mann : the email with very cool, Jame­son
11:00:08 From BigSkyTech : Heli­um is Bespoke based and is more dif­fi­cult for them to inte­grate. Please don’t take my word on that ?. That’s what I heard as I was doing some research . But, the con­cerns around it as a secu­ri­ty makes sense also. Like­ly com­bi­na­tion of both.
11:00:12 From Kevin Wei­de­mann : * very cool, Jame­son (re: pric­ing ben­e­fit, etc)
11:00:48 From Nik Hawks : https://www.signalset.com/
11:00:53 From CreekHound : I may be depends when I already got one
11:01:42 From BigSkyTech : Any one know when Gigasky and/or Dish are going live?
11:01:50 From Sean Med­i­na : it isn’t out­door, a bat­tle that will be lost to the MNOs?
11:01:56 From 619OTA : got my FFi awhile ago. look­ing for just a small cell
11:03:22 From Dirk Beer : Have to go — thanks all, great call & great info from Jame­son.
11:03:23 From Russ : how does he pay for the data he is using? what car­ri­er is it?
11:03:30 From Kevin Wei­de­mann : so when will big car­ri­ers offi­cial­ly part­ner with Heli­um?
11:03:43 From Lee (Team Gris­tle King) : Thanks Dirk for all the info!
11:03:57 From Dirk Beer : Thanks Lee & Nik!
11:04:01 From Russ : In rur­al areas out­door makes sense
11:04:10 From BigSkyTech : This has been awe­some thanks!
11:04:46 From RM : @Nik lets plan a Part II of this meet­ing with Jame­son ?
11:04:52 From Jay M. : Out­door will ben­e­fit from POC in ear­ly days. Long term, indoor is the win­ner.
11:04:55 From Kevin Wei­de­mann : I sec­ond R!
11:05:00 From BigSkyTech : YES
11:05:04 From Tay­lor Thoenes : YES pt 2
11:05:12 From RM : Thanks Jame­son
11:05:12 From Jay M. : Awe­some call!
11:05:16 From Lee (Team Gris­tle King) : Thanks jame­son!
11:05:19 From Kevin Wei­de­mann : lat­er.
11:05:19 From Russ : great call
11:05:20 From Tay­lor Thoenes : Thanks all!